I emailed the story to Jennifer a few days ago. Thanks!
PA28-180C purchase
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STEVE ELLS” wrote:
You don’t need a WAAS GPS to fly instruments, and I don’t believe you need it to get an Instrument rating. Check some statistics; you’ll find that the number of hours private pilots actually spend in actual instrument conditions is pretty small. It’s great to get the rating so you better understand the Airways system, but I would not miss this airplane because it doesn’t have a WAAS GPS.Thanks, Steve. I actually found a newer, better equipped plane that I close on tomorrow!
You don’t need a WAAS GPS to fly instruments, and I don’t believe you need it to get an Instrument rating. Check some statistics; you’ll find that the number of hours private pilots actually spend in actual instrument conditions is pretty small. It’s great to get the rating so you better understand the Airways system, but I would not miss this airplane because it doesn’t have a WAAS GPS.
I close on my plane next week. I had to increase my budget a little to get what I wanted. I ended up getting this one for 72K, https://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?listing_id=2331783. My CFI flew the plane before we left it for the prebuy last weekend. The prebuy had about $1600 worth of squawks, mostly adjustments and a couple of seals, some primary control bearings to be replaced and the like. The mechanic said it is a really nice plane as did my CFI. I thought as much when I looked at a few weeks ago.
I am having the squawks addressed and turning the pre-buy into an annual (due in April) because this is a better time of year for me to do it anyway. It should be ready for me to pick up next Saturday.
Now I can get excited!
Thanks, Scott. I agree with the FAA thing. I found that when I Googled how to look up plane records. I also found that I can look up the tail # and link to any NTSB reports for a plane. I found an accident on another plane that I was looking at that doesn’t have any indication of it in the logs. This was a 65 plane, with the accident in 67.
Hi Steven,
The 180s are great airplanes. And good on you for knowing your budget and what you want! $60K should get you there — I’ve seen a few that match your specs sell in the last couple of weeks.
Regarding this particular aircraft and pricing… I suppose it never hurts to ask, but I’d be real surprised if you were able to get the seller to knock $10k off the asking price based on the premise that the aircraft doesn’t have a WAAS GPS. If anything, the airplane you listed has better avionics than the majority of the older Cherokee 180 fleet. It’s a seller’s market for single-engine fixed-gear piston airplanes right now, especially those with new fancy gadgets like dual G5s and a nice ADS-B transponder.
Eric has some good advice above, to which I’ll add this: Make sure you get a copy of the FAA aircraft records CD for any aircraft you’re considering purchasing. The seller may say “no damage history” but he/she may not be telling the whole story (for a variety of reasons).
Yeah, I doubt you would get $20K off, but if you do grab that deal with both hands 🙂
Based on the pricing I saw when looking I think about $45 to $50K is about right for the plane (assuming all is as described)
I’ll PM you the details of my bird for reference.
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